Live Room Dimension

[gaz7224]

Hi all,

I'm getting a room extended and making it my Live-Room.

The dimensions will roughly be:

Length: 23’
Width: 12’
Height: 7’ 10”

I've tried a room-mode calculator but I didn't understand it.

Do you think the size is OK for acoustics?

I'll obviously acoustically treat the room, and I know it won't be 'perfect', but I'm hoping it'll be good enough.

Thanks,
Gaz

[stainless]

somewhat similar to mine
23' long 15; wide one end 12' wide the other (staggered walls... a stairway), ceiling is 7' the narrow end and 7'9" the wide end

it works for me... but then it's what I got.

Wood floors (except under the drums and keyboards), bass traps in most corners (unless theres a door), combination of diffusers, Heimholtz (sp?) resonators, and panels of RFG (1" and 2"), some ceiling panels flat on the ceiling, others suspended with a 2-3 space behind

not acoustically perfect, but I've found most of the sweet spots (at least for the mics I have)

you learn to work with what you got

[stainless]

honestly, I think start with traps in the corners, then deal with the walls (leave opposing spaces open)

then the ceiling.... as most speakers, drums, and vocals tend to 'immediately"project horizontally (I mean the amps aren't point at the ceiling, the vocalists are laying the floor sing 'up"... etc"  I think corners first, walls second

but that's just my 2 cents

I think short of hiring an acoustical engineering, short of overkill, most efforts "help" to some degree

OK ... 3 cents (inflation's a bitch)

[gaz7224]

Well I've given the go ahead to the architect to submit the plans for 'planning permission' today.  It'll take a while, but I'm excited because it's something I've always wanted to do.  My family think I'm crazy.

Unfortunately, it's not possible to have a window from the control room to live room, but I'll make do.

I've got a lot of planning to do.  Need to work out where to place I/O wall plates.  You mentioned it's better to scatter them throughout the room.

What kind of headphone amp/distributor have you got?

Gaz

[gaz7224]

Presonus  HP60

Just read the other topic, couldn't remember if you'd said already.

[stainless]

well... actually... tomorrow... me an me drummer will take down bass  traps and run Cat 5 cable for  Hear Back system, which will replace the HP60-

I like the HP60... but asI use the Matrix Mixer in the RME interface I have (which I do like the interface) I find that, because I do a lot of multiple player/live situations... I spend an inordinate amount of time re-adjusting headphone mix levels as the session goes on... and then the next session I spend time adjusting everyones mix... etc, etc

so I'm switching to the Hear Back system so each player can "ADJUST THEIR OWN DAMN MIX!!!"  there I said it!

The HP60 is a GOOD headphone amp- I especially like the fact that you can mono the mix to the headphones as I have found that a stereo mix (especially if a track is hard panned) can be distracting to some folks and VERY FEW PEOPLE hear exactly the same out of both ears

The Hear back is pricey $1300 US plus the mounts for the mixers (4) and you need an available ADAT output... or 8 analog outs

I have managed to pre-sell the HP60 to a gentlemen who I've included  in the conditions he come and drink beer and critique the studio...as he's highly respected ... and that's all I'm saying...I'm hoping I don't act too much a fool(maybe I'll just catch a beer or 2 before he shows up?!?)

so back to the room- THAT'S EXCITING...I wish I could have an architect involved in a room... the lack of a window will be a work around (IMHO), but doable ...I routinely use hand signals to cue people and make adjustments to the mix (and after tomorrow they can do that themselves!!!!)... but in this day and age of high tech... closed circuit video is affordable and could be an option

I am really happy to hear of your progress... as us west coast idiots are prone to saying "way cool dude!"