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Offline stainless

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3 mics for acoustic?
« on: November 18, 2010, 10:30:21 PM »
I 'normally' just use 2: a LDC on the soundhole and an SDC for the neck (towards the nut)- both ~ 12" off the guitar.... but I'm wondering about adding a 3rd, just as a 'room' mic?

or going a step beyond and using a stereo X/Y, etc?

any thoughts??

I'm asking because I'm rather lazt and coming up with odd ideas is much easier  >:D
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Re: 3 mics for acoustic?
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2011, 08:00:39 AM »
I think you should definately give it a try, nothing to lost in experiementing and supplimenting your usual technique.
Most of the recordings I have made used a similar mic set up to yourself. 5-6 inches from the body of the guitar, tending towards the end of the guitar and then one towards the neck near where it meets the body. Tends to get good results IMO.

A room mic might be nice to have but like any multi miking just check the phase of the more distant mic with the 2 that are in place.

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Re: 3 mics for acoustic?
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2011, 09:56:05 AM »
a room mic (single of stereo) didn't seem to add that much to make it worth the set-up time,

I suppose if I had a large room it might add something
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Re: 3 mics for acoustic?
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2011, 12:31:28 PM »
Well it's good to try these things out and yes remaining open minded for different situations is a good plan.
I generally tend to use 2 mics wherever possible on ac. gtr unless spill from other instruments is getting a bit much, and of course
tend only to use 1 mic per guitar if there are 2 people playing with a touch of panning for some spread.

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Re: 3 mics for acoustic?
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2011, 12:48:55 PM »
With singer/songwriters the usual plan is set up the click (assuming they can play to a click)  ::)

then record a scratch vocals and guitar, using the same mic set-up I'd used for acoustic (LDC & SDC) mainly to save time, as next I record the acoustic, having only to re-adjust the mics and retrack the acoustic (this sasme set-up works well with cello, fiddle, mando... any acoustic strings

then for the I change to a pair of LDC (currently my favorite is a pair of Russian Oktava MK-319's modded by Michael Jolie) in an X/Y panned not quite symmetrically opposing-

then we move on with the tune

IF it's a band that uses an acoustic I'll put the acoustic in the control room with me as there's no way to completely isolate the drums in the main room (the electric guitar(s), bass) and keys are all DI'd . And generally I retrack the guitarist(s) through live amps, but for the "live fee" scratch this works better

then I have a couple of folks who want everything individually tracked, building off a simple scratch

I just got an Rode NTK from an acquaintance (be here next week) and I may try pairing that with  a Karma K-58 tube mic (with a NOS RCA tube, stock tube was really grainy) to see what type of texture using 2 different tube mics gets me
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Re: 3 mics for acoustic?
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2011, 12:26:29 PM »
Been having pretty good luck using a 3 mic set up on acoustic guitars. I place a large diaphram condenser about 10 to 12 inches off the 12th fret, a little off axis, a small diaphram condenser about the same distance off the bridge off axis and a SM57 pointing at the sound hole about 8 to 10 inches away. Its been working pretty good so far, but of course every player is different, for some it works for some it doesnt.............best rule of thumb... if it sounds good......do it :)
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