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Offline willischlagzeug

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Considering Upgrade from Korg D3200
« on: March 06, 2010, 06:59:21 AM »
Good Morning!
Boy do I need help!  I have been recording with the Korg D3200 and have been pleased with its simplicity and performance, but now want to take it to the next level.  Some say to add some outboard Preamps and some room acoustical treatments and you will hear an amaing difference.  Otheres say to get into computer-based recording with an IMAC - MAudio Profire 2626 Interface and ProTools MPower 8......
What i love about the D3200 is the "simplicity" of recording tracks.  In fact, that is ALL I want to do - RECORD TRACKS, but better than I currently do it.  Seems like ProTools etc...will take a lot of reading and experimenting, which I do not have time for.  Is there a very good, simple interface out there without all of the plug-ins, effects etc....?  Once I have the tracks down, I dump the info into an engineers lap to mix and master.
I have no problem putting the Korg aside and starting from scratch!
Any suggestions how I can kick it up a notch or two?  BTW - I need 8 inputs simultaneously, 24 tracks to record and am willing to not let a "budget" interfere with a great Home Studio Project.

Thanks to all who try to help!

Bill :D

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Re: Considering Upgrade from Korg D3200
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2010, 11:32:30 AM »
Bill- welcome to HRS

I guess my first question is what is it about the Korg that you're dis-satisfied with?  and what do you think you will get at "the next level"?

outboard pre-amps- generally most of the internal preamps on mixers are not the highest quality- if they truly were "world class" the cost would be much greater, so better pre-amps would improve the signal chanin, but....I've seen the Korgs but never used one- can the internal pre's be bypassed? or does it have inon-preamp inputs?  If not, a better external pre-amp won't garner much improvement as the signal will still have to go thru the lower quality internals.  If the input channel has a input gain/level pot/slider  (not the channel/post  volume fader)and it still controls your input levels then atleast some portion of the internal pre-amp circuitry is still involved

Room acoustics- yes, if thought and some research is put into this it will make a difference in the room you record in, as well as the room you monitor mix in . You can "kill" a room by getting a bit carried away and just buying a carton of Auralex acoustic foam and sticking it up here and there may help a little  but it's definitely not the right approach

as you've said you don't have time for reading or experimenting my gut feeling is you're better off staying with what your doing and accept it as-it-is. Everything in recording comes with a learning curve,  while some of the methods seem intuitive for some, most are learned skills, otherwise the George Martins, Quincy Jones, and "insert famous engineer producer here" would be nobody special!

ProTools would work for you (I am a PTLE user on a Mac), if you don't want to deal with the proprietary limitations that ProTools has, then Logic or Cubase , or Reaper would work well, but each has differences, strong points, and limitations, and there's knowing the outboard gear so you can get the best results-

would you just put any mic anywhere  in a room, hit the record button and tell the musician "go"?
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Re: Considering Upgrade from Korg D3200
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2010, 01:08:59 PM »
Thanks for your quick reply!  I have some homework to do about the Korg.  I believe it is "compressing" the files as it is sent via SPIDF to an engineer.  Losing that "sparkle" fro the original tracks laid down.

Let me do some research on your questions!

Have a great day.
Bill

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Re: Considering Upgrade from Korg D3200
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2010, 03:23:17 PM »
hmm... according to the Korg website- the D3200 does "uncompressed 16 and 24 bit" .. I can't tell if you can burn the data files (session tracks) directly to the onboard CD burner, but if not the USB port should allow you to export the raw files to your computer and transfer to disk there. I'd frankly be surprised if you couldn't do this with the onboard CD-burner as it would a logical means to make an external back-up... (like wise the USB)

I'm not absolutely certain, but I believe the SPIDF has little involvement with data transfer/export, but rather another means of getting 2 more channels of audio input/output (If someone knows for sure please explain how this is done?!?)

what format are you using to save the files that are going to the engineer?  Are you using compression while recording? or in your mix?  most every engineer i've ever worked with typically wants 24 bit - 44.1k  wav files (and a few prefer AIFF-

You're not send MP3's are you?
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Re: Considering Upgrade from Korg D3200
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2010, 04:51:59 PM »
you are correct - the Korg website does say that...but something is happening????

i am saving in WAV format - no MP3's.

I'll give Korg another call on Moday to investigate further...

On another note has anyone had any experience with the Presonus StudioLive?  Looks impressive, but anywhere I go to see it...that's about all I can do....see it.  It's never hooked up and nobody has had a chance to use it????

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Re: Considering Upgrade from Korg D3200
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2010, 05:06:05 PM »
if you were to import a file (any file.. a song from a CD even) into the Korg, do nothing at all to it and save as a wav file- does it sound any different?

are there any inserts on the master fader? meaning the mix you hear that has sparkle is with the benefit of the master channel?

are you listening on the same monitoring system?  meaning sounds great on your system and then comes back and doesn't sound great anymore? i... after it comes back from the mastering engineer (I'm assuming this is who you're send it to)

I'm phishing for a possible cause
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